Arky
Our Resident Castle
"In till my ears are gnawed off"
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Post by Arky on Dec 6, 2012 9:32:48 GMT -5
I agree with your interpretation of her tone in that scene. I am holding out hope that they don't give us another round of insecure Kate and groveling Castle. I'm hoping that ABC feels the need to fabricate drama in their promos, while in reality we get a mostly functioning adult relationship during the episode. After watching the promo again, the tone of the music makes it seem like a fun episode instead of an angsty one. So maybe by the end of the episode, "you're not the man I thought I knew" takes on a double meaning when KB does, in fact, learn the real reason for their marriage breaking up. Okay,I can get on board with that. I would like to think Kate is secure in her mind that Castle would not stray. I want her to think he is the man she thought he was. 
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Post by vafiend on Dec 6, 2012 21:42:16 GMT -5
Kate is all about the evidence. And what does the evidence tell her he is? Well, she already said it to Lainie. He can be self-centered. Childish. Impulsive. He throws himself into involvements with women. Sometimes for a fling. Sometimes he probably tells himself it is more. To the extent that he has married them. Twice. And then doesn't completely let go. She knows he has continued to sleep with his first wife, even though he doesn't respect her ("deep fried Twinkie"). He entered into a relationship with his second wife a second time, even though he doesn't respect her very much ("high maintenance"). From where Kate sat, it looked like he tried to get Kyra Blain back, even though she was about to marry someone else. Even Ellie Monroe--he put "How Much I Feel" as the ring tone on his phone for her calls.
Yes, he's followed her loyally for 4 years. He sticks with women. But he sticks with a lot of women. He's the guy who thinks he loves them, until he doesn't anymore. But he doesn't entirely let them go.
It makes his heart look like a crowded place. And she knows there have been loads of women not in that crowd. That just passed through. And she knows she's not one of those. But is she a Meredith, a Gina, a Kyra? Is she more special than the throngs, but yet.....? He doesn't look constant enough to go the full distance.
That's what the evidence seems to say. But she is there. And she worked hard to get herself to a place emotionally where she could be there. And not to have one foot out the door. She fixed herself for him. So part of her wants to believe that the evidence is wrong. Or pay attention to the other evidence. His rock-solid constancy for Alexis and Martha. His visible respect for her (something she shares only with Kyra). The fact that he has stuck with her through it all.
So what man does she think he is? I think she protects herself by reminding herself he's the first one. I think that as this season progresses, true progress will be when she sees he's the latter. And I'm hoping that that line is the moment of realization.
Of coursemitncould also be her teasing him about something.
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Arky
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Post by Arky on Dec 6, 2012 22:44:50 GMT -5
Kate is all about the evidence. And what does the evidence tell her he is? Well, she already said it to Lainie. He can be self-centered. Childish. Impulsive. He throws himself into involvements with women. Sometimes for a fling. Sometimes he probably tells himself it is more. To the extent that he has married them. Twice. And then doesn't completely let go. She knows he has continued to sleep with his first wife, even though he doesn't respect her ("deep fried Twinkie"). He entered into a relationship with his second wife a second time, even though he doesn't respect her very much ("high maintenance"). From where Kate sat, it looked like he tried to get Kyra Blain back, even though she was about to marry someone else. Even Ellie Monroe--he put "How Much I Feel" as the ring tone on his phone for her calls. Yes, he's followed her loyally for 4 years. He sticks with women. But he sticks with a lot of women. He's the guy who thinks he loves them, until he doesn't anymore. But he doesn't entirely let them go. It makes his heart look like a crowded place. And she knows there have been loads of women not in that crowd. That just passed through. And she knows she's not one of those. But is she a Meredith, a Gina, a Kyra? Is she more special than the throngs, but yet.....? He doesn't look constant enough to go the full distance. That's what the evidence seems to say. But she is there. And she worked hard to get herself to a place emotionally where she could be there. And not to have one foot out the door. She fixed herself for him. So part of her wants to believe that the evidence is wrong. Or pay attention to the other evidence. His rock-solid constancy for Alexis and Martha. His visible respect for her (something she shares only with Kyra). The fact that he has stuck with her through it all. So what man does she think he is? I think she protects herself by reminding herself he's the first one. I think that as this season progresses, true progress will be when she sees he's the latter. And I'm hoping that that line is the moment of realization. Of coursemitncould also be her teasing him about something. One of the most insightful post I have ever read. Well thought out and very well done. 
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castlekat
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Post by castlekat on Dec 7, 2012 8:40:23 GMT -5
Kate is all about the evidence. And what does the evidence tell her he is? Well, she already said it to Lainie. He can be self-centered. Childish. Impulsive. He throws himself into involvements with women. Sometimes for a fling. Sometimes he probably tells himself it is more. To the extent that he has married them. Twice. And then doesn't completely let go. She knows he has continued to sleep with his first wife, even though he doesn't respect her ("deep fried Twinkie"). He entered into a relationship with his second wife a second time, even though he doesn't respect her very much ("high maintenance"). From where Kate sat, it looked like he tried to get Kyra Blain back, even though she was about to marry someone else. Even Ellie Monroe--he put "How Much I Feel" as the ring tone on his phone for her calls. Yes, he's followed her loyally for 4 years. He sticks with women. But he sticks with a lot of women. He's the guy who thinks he loves them, until he doesn't anymore. But he doesn't entirely let them go. It makes his heart look like a crowded place. And she knows there have been loads of women not in that crowd. That just passed through. And she knows she's not one of those. But is she a Meredith, a Gina, a Kyra? Is she more special than the throngs, but yet.....? He doesn't look constant enough to go the full distance. That's what the evidence seems to say. But she is there. And she worked hard to get herself to a place emotionally where she could be there. And not to have one foot out the door. She fixed herself for him. So part of her wants to believe that the evidence is wrong. Or pay attention to the other evidence. His rock-solid constancy for Alexis and Martha. His visible respect for her (something she shares only with Kyra). The fact that he has stuck with her through it all. So what man does she think he is? I think she protects herself by reminding herself he's the first one. I think that as this season progresses, true progress will be when she sees he's the latter. And I'm hoping that that line is the moment of realization. Of coursemitncould also be her teasing him about something. Awesome! I agree! I think it's either going to be her teasing him, or that we ARE going to gain insight, and therefore Kate will, of what went wrong with his marriages. And Kate is going to see he is indeed not the man she thought he was. She's going to realize he's even BETTER than she thought. And I cannot wait to see the love in her eyes when she learns the truth. 
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Post by tiff098765 on Dec 7, 2012 10:24:21 GMT -5
Is there a CTV promo?
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Post by teelduo on Dec 7, 2012 10:34:18 GMT -5
I thought there was tiff but I can't find one. So I think I'm wrong.
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Post by caskettfan on Jan 6, 2013 13:27:56 GMT -5
I love this show! The kiss looked so sweet for the second that I saw. And on a rather shallow note Nathan looks SO hot when he purses his lips around the :18 sec mark. He's just lovely to look at lol. I can't wait to see this episode. I have no doubt that this setback pushes them even closer together!
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